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Magick / The Cords of man and God...Mind Control...Pretty Freaky
« Last post by Jeff4freedom on May 23, 2018, 04:21:03 pm »
The Cords of Man and the Cords of "God", Magic and Mind Control
Okay, WOW...YIKES, I'm going to talk about something kind of very Magical Now.
Some of you will remember our discussions when I had that nice forum ,"The Light Behind the Shadows" on Facebook, before they totally thrashed that into a non- workable place. I just did a search on Facebook and it's still there, but it is a "Secret" group and I can't figure out how to change it, besides it's linear form made it virtually useless. But you can try and check it out if you want through the link here.
Anyway I had not even thought about this subject in years, then this morning it hit me.....to a whole new level. And I got a peek at some mind blowing things on the subject which I will dive further into here.....But YIKES!!!.
If I tell you straight up front why this is an important subject now will probably freak you out, so I'm going to break it to you slowly.
So I found a couple old references here that you might want to read to get some background and to expand on a subject that is going to go to a whole new level here. Here are those links: cords-of-man-and-cords-of-god.html
and cords-of-man-and-god-equation-for freedom
So far I've just had a peak at the new information and why it's so important that I bring this subject out now....but we'll follow that thread together in a bit, after I give you some basics.

The picture above is of a Teacher of mine that I've only seen twice in this life in a physical body..once when I was 8 or so and then again when I was in my early 20's.. and that meeting was intense and very magical. You can read about her here:coming-out-of-scary-weirdness-closet. and that encounter in the first chapter and I think the 7th talks about this magical meeting She was demonstrating to me the Cords by using them to Fly....very intense.
But here are some basics.
The "Cords of God":  This is "the Web" of Life that you will perceive if you ever get the occasion to sit on the outer edge of Creation looking back in at it.  This was the experience that changed my life in 1970 when I was this nerdy "normal" guy one moment sitting on a mountaintop, and the next I was having an experience/vision so intense that everything for me changed.
 And what is seen from that vantage point is this Giant Golden expanding Web, where everything is connected by this golden cord. That I call the Cords of God (being kind of a misnomer because although it looks like cords it is actually just one single continuous cord.) We are all connected via this Web to everything else in Creation. I'm not going to address the Cords of God much today because my concern lies with the Cords of Man".  These cords enter in our belly region, they are astral/etheric in nature and connect us to the world of our perception. Normally we can't see these, although I think the only reason science hasn't been able to do so is because they aren't looking, or don't know how to. But anyway, hmmmm, I may not be able to access the info now, might need to return tonight. I'm going to spend the day with my son who will be waking soon full of enthusiasm and ready for his Dad's total attention, and this sort of puts a time constraint on me that makes "connecting" to something so vast a little more difficult..... I'll try though:
The cords of Man are of our individual and group creation, they are cords that connect us to our "perception", to our description of the world. They are built of astral, mental and etheric material and they maintain us within our description. The also receive some of their "fuel" from the cords of God, as everything does.
As there is a Web of Life or God (dang that word is hard to use with all the crazy stuff that's been attached to it) , and there is a Web of Man. You can read about these more to get the basics in the links I shared, but that time constraint I'm working under wants me to get to the point of the day.
Now these cords projecting from our umbilical region connect to the world as we have JUDGED it into being, they create this external web that holds us firmly within our description....but the News of the Day is that that very same Web is reflected within our bodies. "As above so Below". But unlike the Cords of God (being one continuous cord) they are a bundle of many cords. And each of these cords has a certain resonance, a certain mystical Colour...a very specific vibration.  These are the cords that dictate our experience when we "die"....where we travel to in that realm...what we draw to ourselves. They also push and pull us through the world of our experience . As we move through the world they are like whips extending invisibly from our belly's, attaching to the things we perceive, pushing and pulling things towards or away from us. Butterflies in our stomach when we are unsure of things are one physical manifestation that remind us they are there. When people are "attracted" to each other it is because they have connected resonant cords that are harmonious. blah blah blah blah.
 OK, here's the deal. Humans are very easily controlled via these cords. What one might call a Black Magician (as many of those currently controlling governments are) can use these cords to control the masses.   I mean, they are of an astral nature, so simply on one level they can use peoples emotions against them, this is what the controlled media does..... I mean we all pretty much know this, but I'm afraid it goes way beyond that.
When I was young I was used by the Government in some mind control experiments.  My Mom and Dad both worked for some very nefarious agencies and I was volunteered as a guinea pig.  WOW! the capabilities back then were beyond belief, I can't even imagine the level it has been taken to....(until I see the actions of the populace in the past 20 or so years)...Totally acting out of Integrity with their souls.
So the whole "mind Control" thing as I knew it had to do with the fact that it was discovered that specific thoughts and emotions had very specific "energetic signatures"....  now I see that this was the very specific resonance of the different cords of man.  We all have this very personal description, but it overlaps with the description of everybody else. Public Education ( I mean indoctrination), the media, social and cultural groups all work together to "Tune" those cords, to define them and create agreements that have an astral/etheric/mental definition. In the late 60's there was a "machine" that could decipher these "energetic signatures". The cords of Man were mapped and defined. These signatures could now be energetically replicated.
We live in an energetic soup my friends, with Wi Fi, RF signals, all kinds of Crap surround us now that has zero existence in a Primal World.  It was discovered in the late 60's that people could be manipulated via the resonance of their cords, once the specific "energetic signatures" of things (specific thoughts and emotions) was determined.  HOLY CRAP.
Now the "roots" of these cords of man and of our individual webs are within our bodies. Our disease and Dis Ease in the world and ourselves are tied to these cords with lifetimes deep roots.

And the scary reality is we can be made to think and feel and do very specific things via our cords. (many of the "Mass Shootings created to further political constraints were the product of this.)

OK, I hear movement upstairs so better go start breakfast for the Fam. I'm going to publish this but will continue the subject later, in this same post, so if you have read this, you can come back later for more...


Next morning: Let's consider these cords further,
So what do we do in order not to be controlled?

Well here we go down another scary rabbit hole.
We all know about those Chemtrails...and ..HAARP, and most have caught on to the nastiness about Vaccinations......
BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!
We are led to believe, (even by those who have perpetrated them upon us)....different ideas about their purpose..... toxic metals destroying our health etc., and on one level this is true, BUT it's all a Smokescreen to keep us from putting together the Truth about it.
And here it is:
You know how I said how thoughts and emotions have very distinct "energetic signatures"...well, these can be replicated on many levels, chemical, Radio Frequencies and even through very precise blending of colors presented to our eyes. So certain chemical blends can be made to elicit certain thoughts and reactions. (Don't eat those freakin Doritos man, he he, but NO, seriously)... Those same reactions can be generated with Radio Frequencies (via HAARP and wi fi etc.)...they can be nicely blended in those toxic cocktails they are making mandatory and pretending that you need to keep safe from the diseases they are fabricating in labs these days (but having difficulty with since they are actually clueless about what Virus's are and how they work, luckily).
Metals in the Chemtrails act as antennas in the body making us easy targets for the HAARP, and also blended to replicate certain things (Fear reactions for one), but even very specifically right down to certain thoughts.   It goes on and on and zillions of your tax dollars are funding this assault against humanity designed to keep us all under control and being the nice little cash cows for the elite that control all of this. OH, and don't forget the water supply.
Here's the deal: The manufactured "food" supply, the air you breathe, the water you probably drink, the WiFi and radio signals that permeate almost every corner of the planet..... can all be, and are, "Tuned" in ways to resonate with certain "cords of Man" in order to keep humanity complicit in the elites Game, a game designed for their profit and for the amplification of their power.
So now you have some idea of where to start to regain control.
Know where your food comes from and only eat organic real food, stay away from anything "processed", don't drink city water, stay inside or wear a freakin mask if you have to when the planes are dumping their Chemtrails. And just to clarify the hypnotism that the chemtrails are contrails .....They aren't...
....it's not a whole bunch of planes leaving normal vapor trails taking folks to nice family reunions and on business trips, it's a few going back and forth. There are ZERO airlines that fly their planes in huge circles and back and forth all day wasting very expensive fuel just to fly in circles. Those planes go from point A to point B.  We've seen the Chemtrail planes go way back in underpopulated areas, and turn around and head back and do it again.  Get yourself on a really high mountain and watch them sometime.
DO NOT VACCINATE, for this and a lot of other reasons.
I would Not Watch Mainstream TV, half time commercials for example in major sports events can have their Colors blended perfectly to elicit certain responses. HI DEF..., look Out People. Don't ever drink City Water, filter your water even if it's from a deep well. Keep as far away from mainstream medicine as possible.
These are just some of the basic first steps.
But the most important and difficult thing is for us to deal with our own Cords, with that which resonates with what is being put out there.
If there is no prejudice within you, they can not "strike that cord".  If we consciously make the effort NOT TO RESPOND OUT OF FEAR, all their attempts to control us via them will be subverted.
This is probably the biggest one and I guess my suggestion would be, whenever you feel yourself acting out of fear, Love, and apply your discrimination to see if there is really any immediate threat you need to respond to, 99.9% of the time there will not be.
You are being Manipulated.
Nobody in their right heart and mind would ever vote or promote the evil Hillary, or the Ignorant puppet of folks like Hillary, Donald Trump ...who is now your president. This would never ever happen in the Real World..... it was all manipulation and some of you should consider how you reacted to what I just said.... going on Defense of your Fear Based Choice.   That choice you made was not made in your heart....it was manipulated into you, using your own cords against you..... So if you did respond in defense of your choice for either of these two that were given to you by the elite....start there, that is the beginning for you...the root to be rooted out.  You were manipulated by your fears...... replace those fears for Love of what you fear and you will be taking the first step in Freeing yourself. 
It's not easy is it?
Freedom from Tyranny never is.
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Magick / The Cords of Man and God ....Equation for Freedom
« Last post by Jeff4freedom on May 23, 2018, 04:18:57 pm »



So your Mom never loved you,
treated you like Cinderella was treated by her step mom,
and you want her to Love you,
or at least say she's sorry for never Loving you.
And maybe somewhere along the way your Mom,
removed your Dad's Cajones...
( I think she had them in a safe deposit box somewhere),
and he never stood up for you against the sad nasty woman,
and that hurts you.
And maybe your children don't love you because you were never around and your insane ex wife hated you because you could not save her from her insanity, so she spent all her time studying how Nazi's and other folks used mind control, and she used it on your kids from the time they could understand, to make them hate you. (sound crazy, well, it could happen)... Maybe your boss is the biggest **** loser kiss ass on the planet and everything that he gets credit for...is due you, because you gave the ideas to him.
Maybe you'd like to for once be recognized for your worth...

Maybe your Sister joined a really popular Cult,
and lost Herself....
and you really loved your Sister
and want her back....

So you carry this sadness, this heaviness that is the desire to be loved by your Family, and anger at your dumb ass boss, and disappointment with your children who could not see who you really are, or who they really are.......

Chains

And the reason you even care about your dumb ass boss is because you are a working fool. You work every other person under the table, wherever you've ever worked..... and why, Because one thing your Mom seemed to Love, was a good worker.... and you are still trying to Get her Love....workin like a fool.

And as hypnotized as your children are you don't see how they will ever know you, so how can they Love you...

Chains..


And you just want to be Free......


And you always thought if your children and Mom Loved you,
and your boss appreciated you,
and your sister would get her soul back....
and your Dad his Cajones
you'd be OK....
you'd be free of the Chains.

Jingle Jangle...

But your Mom and Children may never Love and Understand you
Your Sister might never find herself,
and you boss might never quit being an ****. (that's pretty likely)
and your Dad's voice might never drop back down into the manly range...

SOO.


Plan B.

EH

What is the answer ?

Well the New Age Pundit
will tell you,

"Cut the Cords"

And this is true,
but only part of the equation.
The other half of the equation is,

Reestablish the Real Connection...

And that is done with 
LOVE



You see chains are built upon

emotional and mental material..

this is what drags us down,

and makes us old.

*

Your desire to be Loved and appreciated.....

has very little to do with

Love and appreciation...


...but everything to do with Desire...



Chains that bind our souls

are not built upon love

They are built upon unsatisfied expectations.

You expect your family to love you

and your boss to appreciate you.

And they don't

and those unfulfilled expectations

are at the center of most of the "Pain"

in your Life...


We are Bottled Up,
tied down,
chained and imprisoned,

By Ourselves

by our own Unfulfilled expectations....



CUT THE CORDS...

For those who don't know about this,
there actually is an energetic bundle of cords that comes into us
around our belly button region.
The fact is.... I'm afraid we're going to have to go esoteric here for a sec...

The fact is that everything that we perceive and feel
or think a certain way about...
has a cord between it,
and us.

You could say esoterically that these cords are tied to our intent....
our wills, our emotions and our minds.


The Teacher I saw on the Beach who was Flying

she was using these cords to do that...



I call these cords....,

"The cords of Man"

These cords you could say,

Maintain our position in our unique relationship
with the world of our Perception.

We manipulate and define them with our mental and emotional descriptions.

And they hold us like a spider

trapped in it's own web.




Like I say the first half of the Process of Freeing oneself from this web is

Cutting the cords.....

It's our own dang web that binds us to our Description

So we begin by cutting one cord at a time...

we tend to start with the biggest one's

say,
Mom never lovin ya....


Let go of the emotion...

let go of the mental anguish...

let go of the expectation....


Cut the freakin cord..


"Yeah, that's great Mr. Newage Pundit Guru Dude,

But now I just feel lost and alone...."

That's because you gotta complete the equation...

ReConnect

OK, I just described the "Cords of Man"...

To re-connect we must understand...

and Reconnect with the ,"Cords of God".

This term ,"Cords of God is sort of a misnomer,
because it's actually one continuous cord,
but psychically viewing it....
it's hard to see it that way.

Basically the Cord's of God are what some call
The Web of Creation.

If you've ever sat on the outside edge of all Creation

and looked back inside at everything,

what you saw was this giant interconnected Golden Web

That felt like Blissful Ecstatic Love.

Everything connected to everything else..

It's a Real thing.

Just like the cords of man,

it's an energetic reality.

Not just a cutsey Newage term.

The Web of Creation

and the Cords of God 

are the same thing.


So the second half of the equation for freedom is,

RECONNECT to the Cord's of God.


So, how do you do that?

Well, upon analysis of the Material that makes this Web of Creation

and finding that it is built upon the Light of Love...

You can approach it Microcosmically by

Loving more..

Love those things that were your chains

Love your Boss,
love your family,
love George W Bush...

Or you can approach it Macrocosmically....

Do Kriya Yoga,
   Meditate....
          find your way to the outer edge of creation and look back in,
                                          and Connect from there..

Plug in to the Web of Love that Permeates every living

and "non-living" thing...

Cut the emotion/ mental connections (cords of Man)

Reconnect with Love (Cords of God/Web of Creation...

Simple as that...
Equation for Freedom

Now another aspect to understand is that In the Web of Creation
we each have a Center or Point of Origin
and a very precise position to fill.
We expand outwardly from our point of origin
filling an area of the web
until we come up against those around us
in the web 
doing the same thing.
When we are surrounded on all sides
by those neighbors in the web...
and they have expanded as far as they can
and we as far as we can
A change occurs
some call it a ,"Change of Direction"

It was the cords of man that pulled us outward from our point of origin
to fill our particular space in the Web.
But once that position is filled and we are all pushing and crowding next to our Brothers and Sisters who have done the same
Suddenly we remember our Point of Origin
and it's a burning Light at the Center of us..
and it begins to burn away everything that isn't
well..... The Pure Essence of the Web of Creation
We don't really get the desire to cut the Cords of Man
until we've pretty much filled our designated Position
in the Web of God.
Then once we cut all of those Cords of Man...
We Merge with those around us who have done the same
This is basically what happens when we're done with the whole incarnation thing..
We merge with all of those who have merged before us...
And all together we are what some Folks call, 
The Spiritual Sun.




And Don't pretend that,
" It's All Good"
and live in a La La land of denial like most Humans.

Be Brave

Cut the cords

Reconnect.
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This is a topic you rarely see approached.... so I want to address it in a few threads here.
I have this one Teacher, I always call her my “Highest teacher”. I've only seen her in Physical form twice, once when I was 8 years old, then later...grown up, during a Vision Quest...shortly after an encounter with one of Don Juans students....Leading me to wonder if they are somehow connected. It was pretty cool the way it happened.  Here's a link on my blog that talks about her and the Guy who was Don Juans student...you gotta go down a ways to Part 6 about Jill and PackRat...https://mysticorbtalismans.blogspot.com/p/coming-out-of-scary-weirdness-closet.html

Anyway the Teacher taught me a lesson about the cords, she demonstrated by literally Flying over the ocean...... The cords and the understanding of them is essential to the Sorcerers Old and New.
So I'm gonna copy and paste some old writing I did on the subject...

I posted this on a forum for a woman who was having some difficulties, what came through I really wanted to share here so I changed names.
Hi (person 1),
About “cutting the cord”
I wrote a long reply here last night… started “channelling Spirit” as some folks call it…and crashed my computer.. This happens all the time, used to think it was some ill intentioned spirit that didn’t want particular info out in the world…cuz it was usually on the subject of  “the Cords”, then a friend pointed out that my energy was just so high in that state it was probably just me….  It’s frustrating though and I’m writing this elsewhere now in hopes of cutting and pasting. So here we go again, sorry this is more coming from memory than a direct connection with the info, but maybe I can get it out this way.

About cutting the cord that (person 2) so intuitively suggested. This is what I wanted to speak with you about…. Her suggestion of visualizing cutting the cord is most intuitive… this is not merely a cute and handy little visualization tool for easing discomfort from someone else’s energy….. these cords actually exist, and it is through actual “cords” that the energy enters us.

The subject of the cords is not very well known for some reason in the “spiritual community” and I give credit to (person 2) for bringing up the method of cutting the cord as it was always my first suggestion to folks wanting “to protect”. So even though my dsl/internet box seems to have been fried last night from too much energy, I’m writing this in Word, constantly saving, and will get it out to you one way or another.
OK, the Cords. There are to my knowledge 2 types. One I call the cords of Man (these are the ones (person 2) spoke of) and then there are what I call the cords of God. I learned about the cords of man through personal observation and was taught about the cords of God by an incredible Teacher who actually used them to fly. read about it here: https://mysticorbtalismans.blogspot.com/p/coming-out-of-scary-weirdness-closet.html
 then scroll down to Meeting the Teacher and Returning from a Magical Journey.

Today we are only concerned with the cords of man. Now the cords of man enter us in our umbilical region (use this knowledge in whatever cord cutting ceremony you do). These cords are astral in nature…they are built upon emotional/desire/fear energy. They in many ways (not in appearance but in most other respects) resemble crystals. Two attributes of crystals and cords are of most importance to note. First is that a crystal in solution only draws to itself that which is the same, and second…is the quality of resonance. The cords of man work through resonance and a very large part of human communication is taking place through the resonance of cords. You know how when you get emotional your stomach gets tied in knots…you could say on one level this is the cords getting tangled. Anyway when we are “psychically attacked” it comes into us through these cords. So the cutting of a cord that causes us discomfort can be a solution to “psychic attack”. But it is important to understand how it is that cords work…to understand what exactly cords are so we can gain the most from our experience with the cords of Man.

One way to learn more is to go into some public place and take up a position of observer (stay apart from the human drama). And watch peoples interaction. For instance, in a crowded bar a guy walks in looking to find himself a little company …his cords are flying all over the place…looking to connect… They come out of his belly and probe at every potential conquest… however only some women respond. You can notice that some will “feel” him, before they even see him…some might be responding before they have even sighted the dude. The reason is this…as I said cords work with resonance….each cord is built of a certain blend of astral material..it has it’s own hue so to speak…and when it encounters a similar cord in another person…it resonates…. (Feeling the Chemistry). As I said so much of human interaction takes place on this level…and it’s not a problem unless it is not comfortable for one person. Have you ever noticed how you can feel someone checkin you out before you see them, or heard the expression that they “had the feeling of being watched”, well that was awareness of a probing cord. Humans are virtually puppets to these cords sometimes. Now I think it is important to understand where these cords come from…as I have stated they are of an astral nature… Being of an astral nature they are an impediment to our spiritual growth, and the fact is they are buried so deeply in us some times, buried hundreds or even thousands of years in our past. OK, it works like this… this is where the seeds to the cords come from….actually I’m only going to address the cords that cause us discomfort here.

OK (person 1), we have lived a very long time in human bodies, hundreds and thousands of years. Folks on spiritual forums tend to be older than folks on certain other forums….. so during the course of countless lifetimes we have done many “good” things, as well as many “bad” things. Of course now in this lifetime we are understanding that these dualistic judgements are no longer useful or valid, but a thousand years ago when we cut off some dudes head for messin with our significant other… we felt really bad about it later…we didn’t like ourselves much and we didn’t like the guilt we felt or the idea that we were these “bad” people. So we pushed that memory into a dark corner of ourselves so we would not have to feel ashamed. Throughout thousands of years we have pushed thousands of things into dark corners… every thing we fear…we push away, just as we pull every thing we desire to ourselves. Well every thing we fear that we have pushed away to make ourselves more comfortable in our skins…does not go away…and the energy that is required to keep it in that dark place out of the way…feeds it. In all our efforts to avoid those things we have judged fearfully…as bad…. We have not dispelled them in the least, they may be out of sight, but the law of manifestation that says wherever we put energy there will be manifestation in one form or another related to the energy….and as I said it takes a great deal of energy Not to face our fears…

I’ll restate that…It takes a great deal of energy not to face our fears…. And with this energy feeding each repressed judgement of “bad”… what forms is the cords of Man. So now we dance like puppets at the mercy of our fears, our past judgements…and whenever someone comes along with a similar cord, there is a resonance that reminds us of a long repressed “judgement” we had generally about ourselves.
You see so much of our human problems arise because humans have a far more difficult time loving and forgiving themselves, than they do loving and forgiving others… So we carry repressed guilt and judgments of “bad” around for centuries… And they are kept held back in their place because by now all the energy that has gone into repressing them has built them into HUGE monsters that we really fear.
 
When we are victims of psychic attack we are resonating with a cord that someone has, that also exists in us… in a repressed state…and huge. In a psychic attack it is not the “others” energy that causes us distress, it is actually our own… being hit like a tuning fork by theirs. When it comes down to it, ALL psychic attack really comes from our own past…not some other persons energy…that is just the catalyst that reminds us.

The problem is that if we were suddenly to see all the things we have pushed into dark corners for centuries and fed with the energy of our repression… we’d come to the idea we were the Devil Himself…. This is why we choose to keep those things held back in their dark places…. But this is also the only reason we are subject to “psychic attack”.

You (person 1) are a very sensitive person, but you have this idea deep within that you are not as loveable as you are. You have this deep seated feeling that you are not a beautiful, incredible glowing creation…and you base this on deeds you judged hundreds and thousands of years ago.

Skin problems and joint problems are very very often caused when these demons we have pushed into dark corners…try to escape, and we won’t let them.

The key is not further repression of these demons…that only feeds them. The key is LOVING them TO DEATH.

(person 1)…. Know so deeply in your heart that you are so lovable…. Deeds done were human deeds, we all do them, and they are all forgivable. The way I look at psychic attacks is they are a gift… a reminder that somewhere way back when, we made a judgment that was not based in love… Now the “attack” is a reminder of that judgment, so we can love it, and free it.

You see (person 1), bad skin and joint problems are a “psychic attack” that is originating in you, towards you.
The external attack you had from that other person started to uproot certain cords of yours, hence the discomfort at suddenly becoming aware of them. Then after that “attack” you diligently tried to put those cords back in their dark places so you wouldn’t have to feel them. The skin breakouts are caused by repression of our awareness of our own cords. Because you are becoming enlightened and the things in the dark corners…the roots of the cords…are being exposed. Now the choice is to lovingly and fearlessly face them… or repress them some more…. But that won’t work forever…it might give temporary respite…but your body is telling you that it’s not going to work anymore. It’s time to Love and Forgive yourself…and past “Transgressors”.

You might do some past life regression therapy…cuz part of the problem is that the roots go so deep and the plant grown and the fruit it bears barely resembles the root, so we don’t know the enemy we need to Love.

When I was in High School I was the king of the Nerds. I was the archetype Nerd. My Mom dressed me in polyester and I had a sizeable collection of pocket protectors. Well the polyester, and my self consciousness made me sweat like a fiend. I had 12 inch circular rings in my armpits that would go all the way down to my waist. I tried putting toilet paper under my pits, but when that fell out of my sleeves ..it was worse than dealing with the rings. People called me Lake Erie Arm Pits…and that was my friends. He he Ouch…anyway the more I worried about my sweaty pits, the worse they got. Finally in my senior year I took this class (this was the end of the 60’s)..and this was a class called human development, first ..and sadly last of it’s kind back then…. But it did me a lot of good and I stopped worrying about what people thought of me, I found out in that class that the person who was hardest on me…was me…the rest of the folks were having their own issues. Anyway in one day, upon this realization…my arm pits dried up..

Not sure why I shared this…somehow seemed pertinent.

Anyway (person 1), Protection works… and cutting, or sidestepping the cords that are probed at you…works…very well. But it is only temporary, it does not remove the problem, because the truth is that the problem is in you…in the past. And these cords in you you can not cut…. You have to pull them up. And this is done with Love and forgiveness.

Love yourself from Beginning to end…know that everything about you is sacred and beautiful. You are a blessing to the world, and have been for thousands of years…even when you thought and judged otherwise. Love yourself to the deepest reaches of your soul and your face will clear and joints be free. You don’t have to Fear because what you are really fearing has no substance beyond what you give it, and when you finally come face to face with what it is that you actually fear..and love it…. You will laugh and laugh and cry tears of Joy.
You are blessed (person 1)….remember that.

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Sorry I didn't answer sooner, didn't get notified...maybe I didn't hit the notify of replies button.
That would depend on your point on the evolutionary wheel.
 For those still collecting their description..hmmm,
 haven't been that kind of sorcerer in a long time....
I mean, for ordinary man I don't see any reason...no gain in evolution, just a distraction.... For an old world sorcerer ... if you have a Teacher that knows the ropes, you can collect all sorts of non-ordinary stuff into your description.....but these days where that can land you in the looney bin unless you live in a society of sorcerers...it could be problematic..
First let's consider the magnetic nature of the plane.... It's all about frequency of vibration..... and magnetism. So you could draw Like to yourself, building the description more quickly...evolving more quickly, BUT the Momentum of the planes there is a considerable danger....and very few have the training necessary to avoid these or extricate themselves once they pull into them. The biggest danger is the cultivation of Obsessions with non-real things..... I see a lot of this in writings of some students.And some quotes I've seen here.. This is the plane of projections of desire and fear......  what the old sorcerers defined themselves with, BUT what the New Sorcerers are escaping.
So for the old sorcerers.... if they have direction..... I see potential for more quickly defining their reality, and with access to the "timeless" Double, this would seem the case.
Now for the New Sorcerers it's a totally different story. The astral plane is Built in Duality which the new sorcerers are extricating themselves from,
it has realms that can distract the energy body from the quest for Freedom that is the New Sorcerers driving intent.
 And also the Double which is a reflection of all the dualistic notions ever placed upon the sorcerers energy body in the past....by the Laws of the Plane.....if the mistake is made and the Double is faced....serious de-evolution can take place. (been there, done that) That being said, under the proper direction of one who understands the Dangers, there is no better place for accomplishing the sorcerers main task, which is of course Evolving.
I've seen so many people on forums like this that have no comprehension what it is about, Glamour draws them there and they become obsessed with what they see in other realms, entities and such.  They get all fascinated (and slightly obsessed) with things that have no real reality beyond being a creation of some mass emotional/mental construct.  I mean for the New Sorcerers these entities and realms have ZERO purpose, they are distractions created in astral energy which to the new sorcerers is to be avoided at all cost. For the new sorcerers Desire and fear....Duality has no place. It's a prison for them, whereas for the old sorcerers it is The Freakin Path.  So once again I restate the importance of students figuring out just which ones they are. Old or new. Driven to create an impeccable description in the world of Man....OR, Driven to escape the description.   You see a lot of folks following Don Juan are doing it because it seems cool..... powerful, like something they really want to add to their Island.  They are the old sorcerer types.   Then there are the new ones whose Islands are full almost to overflowing and they've come to the point where they are getting rid of their collection, totally letting it go. On the astral plane, if they can avoid the distractions and make it to the Light on the other side, they can literally Burn that Crap up...gone, Bye Bye.  Enhanced evolution.
So you see it's all about what enhances evolution.
The wheel turns first into "form"...Into getting that unique,separate description together to fill our position in eternity. 
Once filled the path is backwards upon itself.  This is where the recap comes in, the cleaning of the Island.
The Old sorcerers built their Island,
 the New dismantle it. 


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Vampires / A vampiric synchronicity
« Last post by Forest.0n.fire on May 21, 2018, 09:00:54 pm »
OK so earlier on my path, before hearing or reading abouy any comparison between sorcerers and vampires, i was began to form the connection in my mind. I've only read a blurb about it since so i would be happy to hear anyone else's comments on that metaphor as well. First i will tell my story and tthenshare my thoughts on the whole matter.

So at the time of this event i had recently taken a plunge into the world of power/knowledge. It was a very difficult and exciting time for me. On this particular night i was out partying. After visiting several venues i ended up in a bar with a dj playing. The whole night i had been feeling the vampire mythos real heavy. I could feel it in myself...vampirism. I could feel it in the air. Like a story being played out before me...where i was the main character and everyone knew the plot but me.
I will say that i was feeling particularly desperate that night. What i was going through was accepting that i was differentfrom everybody else...much different. I felt that i couldnt have fun in the same uninhibited way as the other party-goers. I didnt have the right demeanor, the right look, or the ability of wild abandon that they had. In fact while everyone else seemed to be having a grand old time on the dance floor, i was stomping hard, with fervor and precision to not miss a beat. I was - in spirit- blasting dimensions and getting downloads from reptillians. Real knowledge. Cold, hard knowledge. The type of knowledge that you wouldnt wish upon anyone.
Anyway, so i was feeling like a freak, feeling like a vampire, and just beginning to accept that i would never be capable of being an average man... In all its blissful ignorance.

So needless to say it was a very difficult emotional time for me and to be honest there was still a small part of me that suspected i might just be going crazy.
Until i took a break from dancing and turned to look....
Right there, standing 20ft away and staring right at me was a man. He immediately poknted at me and signaled for me to come here. He had singled me out. He looked oddly fimiliar and my insides lurched when i recognized him. It was Jason F***en Stackhouse from True Blood!!! (Its an HBO sitcom about vampires). He greeted me with a hug.

Now, at this point i instantly recognized it as an omen. The universe was showing me that there was validity to what i had been feeling, and proving that i was not crazy. I also knew that our conversation would be symbolic likewthe spirit would be speaking through him. So i was on high alert for omen interpretation haha.
The first thing i said was "i know who you are!" and he replied "Who?"
"Jason!" he signaled for me to 'Ssshhhh' and then said "But tonight...im just a man."
BOOM! Right there. The facts were laid out hard. He could have been the epitome of what i was wishing i was- handsome, sociable, blisfully ignorant...and there i was, dumbfounded. But at the end of the night? Hes just a man. I was entering the sorcerers world. The dreamers world. I was anything but a normal man.

The rest of our conversation was simple except that he said one more thing that stuck with me. After a pause in our talk, he asked me if i had ever been to a certain festival. I said yes, its great . he replied " see, i wanted to connect with you in some way." as if to tell me that a man of knowledge can still enjoy the simple pleasures of life. A bit of a relief to me.
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General Discussions / Re: Found this quote this morning, by Robert Coon
« Last post by Sea Daughter on May 21, 2018, 09:28:51 am »
I think we are already immortal, but does it really count if in every incarnation, you wake up with amnesia in a strange world, not of your choosing -- and if P.D. Ouspensky is correct -- to the SAME parents, SAME hospital, SAME town ....time is not linear, but it's like what you described re human evolution, it's circular, and in each repeated lifetime, nothing changes on the outside, but only on the inside -- your perception. Based on the evolution ...or not, of your perception, determines where on the spiral you will appear next. If, according to Ouspensky, you are E-volving, it will be further BACK in time. If you are DE-volving, then it will be further ahead in time.

Not to mention all of the parallel lifetimes and possibilities within that context!!

But according to this "model of the universe", the earth and it's inhabitants has a beginning and an ending ...the future moves toward that ending, so those who are devolving would move toward the future.

If you "transcend" a particular lifetime -- meaning you learn all there is to learn there, then you would incarnate into another's lifetime -- you would take the place of a soul who also moved either forward or back in time based on their state of evolution, and left an opening.

This makes total sense to me as it explains deja vu and a million other things ....but we were talking about immortality....

According to Ouspensky, if you continue to devolve, your soul or spirit eventually dies as it reaches the end of everything else, and is basically disassembled and absorbed back into "the light" or whatever you want to call it.  So though the energy is not lost, that soul is basically dead.

Apparently one could keep repeating the same cognitive position or AP/level of evolution ....am at a loss how best to describe it -- for all of "eternity" ...neither evolving nor devolving but staying pretty much in the same place in time.

But is the endless cycle of birth, amnesia, learning or not learning and dying, really "eternal life"?  I would say yes, but no.

Maybe you, and there are others who remember their past lives, but I am not one of them, nor have I met anyone who can ....but even if I could suddenly remember them, how would that change much ....since all I really need to do is achieve the "Totality of myself" -- which is contained in the Immortal Other/Double -- who has all of these memories intact -- who does not suffer amnesia, who is not limited to a certain form, planet, solar system, or even universe if I understand it correctly -- who may just be an Astral being at this point in "time" -- NOW -- but who will become much more when you and your Double become One -- "the perishable is made imperishable" -- the physical body and the Double become ONE ....into a being which is beyond the power of death to disassemble, and which can manifest fully in the physical if it chooses to.

But you speak of immortality as if it is a thing to get bored of ....I don't see it that way as there is no end to the possibilities of what you can experience, learn, do, be ....create! I am the opposite -- what I don't get is how any being would desire to come to and end -- whether that's at the end of one cycle in an endless series of incarnations, or as an Immortal being.

To me, this quote by Coon, is full of hints re the power and potential of the Double.
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Death Defying / Re: Trongjug
« Last post by Miriam on May 21, 2018, 01:22:12 am »
With this technic, before the time of death you are able to successfully "possess" another human body.. And by doing this to "buy" more time in the physical realm.. Not sure if the same applies for the transfer to the double..

I believe only a true master of the mentioned lineage would be able to teach this powerful technic.. Where to find one? I have no idea.. I am searching to find more info but it seems all kept in secret..
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General Discussions / Re: Found this quote this morning, by Robert Coon
« Last post by Jeff4freedom on May 21, 2018, 12:11:47 am »
I Like this, what he calls the Primal Immortal Domain....I call,"the Light".
 And inside every atom is this Light beyond a thousand suns...and it is beyond joyful.....bliss ecstasy are better words, ...and that dude say's it "proclaims the joy and beauty of everlasting life".
In my experience joy and beauty yes are blissfully proclaimed, but to assign that to "everlasting life"...I don't get it.
 I mean to me, everlasting life is simply a given...
and joy, bliss, ecstasy (and sometimes believe it or not a deep deep loneliness) are attributes of what he calls the Primal Immortal Domain,
But I wouldn't assign them to everlasting life....
that just is,
to add those things to what just is, seems......
like a product of the human condition.
I'm just not getting the whole "immortal" thing.
Yep, we're all basically immortal....
it's not really anything all that extraordinary.....
 what am I missing here?

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It's important to understand the difference between the New and Old Sorcery, because they are very different in many ways,
and each of us belongs to one of those paths.

If we are using the techniques for one path
 and we're actually on the other....
it will be frustrating and quite unproductive.

Now both the old and the new share one important attribute,

 you can even say one shared purpose......

and that is to
 evolve at a highly quickened pace.

That could be stated as the basic goal of all sorcery.

But once again evolution is circular, and moves first in one direction....
then reverses upon itself.

This has to be understood and is difficult for most because the common paradigm .....
that is actually imprinted upon most of our DNA,
 believes contrary to this....

....that it is like a staircase where we start at the bottom and climb up.....

and when you reach the top you have achieved the end goal.

But this is simply not true,

 though it's easy to understand how this mistake was made.



If we want to make this staircase analogy more accurate then we would say that, yes, we all climb this staircase...

and along the way we collect our description via duality...

seeking pleasure and running from pain....

where fear is a constant factor that helps guide our steps carefully,
to the proper spot on each step
where we hopefully will be safer and happier.

 But then we reach the top....

 BIG SURPRISE....

What the Hell,

I don't feel enlightened....

in fact I'm mostly feeling bored because I'm totally done with collecting this description....

this IS who I am......

 But now what,

 I thought I was supposed to be enlightened when I got here?



NOPE.



Sits down, twiddles fingers for a while..... bored with his "collection" and collecting....

But Damn, there ain't no more stairs.

He finally figures out there is only one way to go...

and that is back down....

But it's like Bizarro world,

 instead of collecting stuff,

he's stumbling across it on the steps and "Seeing" it from a whole new angle....

And at that point it is removed from his "Description".

And the whole way down this happens where all of the collection gathered in Duality to define his description.....is seen....outside of duality,
and vanishes from the description and returns to what it was
 before he attached duality to it.



So, the difference between a sorcerer and ordinary man is......

sorcerers freakin run on those steps.

The old sorcerers run up the steps...

The new one's run down.

The old ones collect the description quickly and with pin point accuracy....

and just fly up the stairs.

The new sorcerers are running down the stairs,

 "seeing" the truth of their collection....

being freed from it in their "seeing"....

and running down the stairs.

In the old sorcery Fear is a large factor.

In the New Sorcery, Love is a huge factor.

The old sorcerers DEFINED.

The New Sorcerers Contemplated (in the true sense,
 which is the opposite of defining, sometimes referred to as "Identifying with.")



"Seeing" is Contemplation,

it is the opposite of defining.

In defining we take one thing,

add it to another, then another etc.etc.etc.

and eventually come to a conclusion

 and then incorporate that into our being,

into our description,

and it becomes part of the defined Creation.



In "Seeing" we take those things we have collected and incorporated into our being,

 and remove the pieces that defined them, one by one....

until the description is gone and the Truth,

before the description

 is revealed.



The old sorcery dealt within duality, with expertise.



The New sorcery seeks Unity.



Everything Don Juan did was to remove the description so that Reality could become incorporated into us.



Creation is built upon the doings of the world.



Creation is a description.....

it isn't real beyond the description,

where it of course is considered reality.



The old sorcery sought to define Creation.



The New seeks to know Reality.



To the old sorcerers Creation was Reality.

To the New Sorcerers reality is what exists

beyond the definition,

beyond Creation....

The Primal Beingness.



At one time long ago this primal beingness was the norm,

the old sorcerers job was to define Creation.....

They did it and are doing it.

The new sorcerers job is to find again the Primal Beingness.
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The Double / Re: The Double = Construct ???
« Last post by Jeff4freedom on May 20, 2018, 10:00:22 pm »
"If I am not mistaken, you are coming from the idea that since we got our "I self" from the Archons, then the only way to be free of them, is to go back to the way we were before -- meaning we must kill the "ego", our desires ....and our Double. It is the idea that in order to attain freedom, we must kill the thing we love most. I'm not so sure that's true."

I have no idea what the Archons are....but you are entirely correct about the idea of the killing the ego being not true. This belief, very dominant in the "spiritual" folks these days is entirely based in a complete lack of understanding of the evolutionary process and the Truth about the Ego.
I'm going to tell you something that very few folks can deal with.....
Not because it is untrue, but rather because for thousands of years Mankind has been programed to believe the whole ascension.....staircase scenario about evolution.... As I stated before , like most things in creation it is Circular. This has been known by the Mystics...forever, but the Mystics have always been.....sidelined, tortured, killed etc. by the religions that sought to convince people that Duality was the ultimate Truth and that our job was to transcend Desire and ego (even while these belief systems were totally steeped in them.
But here is the most feared truth:
The Ego, and the Soul....... are ONE THING.
The very same thing.
BUT
What has been named the "Ego" is simply the soul on the first turn of the evolutionary wheel.
It's part of the Plan,
without it there would be no evolution, no movement forward, no turning of the Wheel of Life.
You have to consider what the purpose of the ego is....and what the purpose of the soul is....
and guess what, it's the same thing.  The only difference is in the first part of our evolution it works via duality, via seeking pleasure and avoiding and stuffing pain.
(this is what the recapitulation  is designed to resolve.....but not until the first turn of the wheel is complete.
You see, the Purpose of every souls existence is to find it's unique separate expression, Once this has been done....the purpose changes, or you could say, "our Direction Changes"...this is how Don Juan would put it.  Then, and not before the recap... becomes one tool to aid in the journey. You see we are meant to create that unique separate expression (note those three words...UNIQUE, SEPARATE, EXPRESSION.   This is done via duality in the quest to avoid pain and seek pleasure.....this is how we define ourselves with the unique description that is uniquely ours. It's the freakin rule, it's the path....it's the "EGO"/soul that guides us, but the spiritual folks and Jive religions like to say that anything related to desire/seeking pleasure .... is wrong.  How can it be wrong when it's the freakin plan, and not one soul ever escapes this?
Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed etc.....were all first driven by duality to become something SEPARATE and unique.    But a point comes.... when we're done with that.  That point is sort of pre-determined by the Whole of what is, but the path there and the expression is Unique.
So every single one of us...and the old sorcery was adept at speeding up the process , is in the first half of our evolution driven by the soul which has been renamed by dualists....as ego.  Once that unique separate expression has culminated...... this is the point where the wheel of evolution turns back upon itself.
The direction now, is back towards UNITY.
We Did the SEPARATE UNIQUE thing to the max, now the souls drive is back towards UNITY.
The wheel turns back upon itself, and the path we walk now, is the very same path we walked up....only we're coming from the opposite direction....and duality is now becoming a thing of the past.  All the dualistic judgments that we made to complete our Definition of ourselves and the world...are recapitulated ...... we don't even have to try, it's gonna happen because all the dualistic judgments are hitting us in the face on the path back, only now, instead of building them with duality...with Fears and desires....we are seeing them as what they are.....beyond the dualistic judgments we placed upon them.  This is basically the definition of recapitulation. Facing that which we defined with duality....and removing the duality from it so it can be freed to simply be what it is.....freeing us as we do so.
Our description was made in Duality.
Our description is what drains our power.
Our description has no real reality except that in it's culmination it filed a void in the Totality of Creation.
But the new sorcerers job, is to escape the description....
this isn't done by Killing the ego or anything that some confused folks will tell you,
it's a matter of removing the duality from the description......
The task of the new seers is to become free of the description....and the reality is, once the soul has culminated in form, and the wheel reverses.....you don't have to be a freakin sorcerer to accomplish this....It's gonna happen no matter what.
The real talent of the old and new sorcerers is simply speeding up evolution.
Everything that both do has this aim, it's just that since the direction of each is different.... and the methods are sort of opposite, (one is where we collect things....the other we discard the collection and as Don Juan say's, Clean our Island up.
We spend thousands of years decorating our island until it's finally perfect.....
Then there is a stage of total boredom because we don't get any more satisfaction collecting things...but don't know anything else.... I call these folks <"the fence sitters" and my teachers told me part of my responsibility was nudging them off the fence.
There are a lot of folks sitting on that fence right now.
Done collecting things to define themselves....but not knowing the alternative, which of course is de cluttering TOTALLY eventually, their Island. And it isn't done by throwing the things off the island....it's done by no longer defining them with the duality that defined them when they were collected.....
You get it?

Tip of the iceberg here, but to understand all this requires a pretty major assemblage point shift. And accomplishing that through the vehicle of words.......can be a long drawn out affair.
.....and let me be clear here....we can't ever really understand anything by reading books, or listening to someone that does....we can only understand by EXPERIENCING the Truth of a thing. This isn't accomplished in the mind. I haven't read many books on all this stuff except to find a language to share it with others.... I put no creed in amassed knowledge...Because all of that is just basically ideas about the truth....which are one of the biggest impediments to experiencing the Truth of anything.
When I speak of these things, I am speaking from experience......from "Seeing", not from any ideas someone else put forth in a book....or in words to me. If it's not from my experience or "seeing", I'm not gonna talk about it...it's just opinion, just ideas......really pretty useless.
Don Juan taught Contemplation.  Straight up.
Not the "contemplation" of the occidents, which has become defined as milling something around in the mind....quite the opposite, in contemplation you remove the mind from the situation and use Intent to focus.....mindlessly and beyond any dualistic thoughts..... on what needs to be known....and this happens with the process because we become "identified" with that which we contemplate....we become it. This is the only True Knowing...... It can be very scary, sure scared the poop out of Carlos countless times....because once we remove the definition from that which we perceive....it becomes something quite different......
The new sorcerers path is relating to the world AS IT IS.....not as we have come to THINK it is. Those are two quite different things.
Gotta go, long day, did a show....made some money, dealt with hundreds of humans....need home family time before the fam hits the hay.
Thanks again for responding.....
Good communication




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